Na negen voorrondes en in totaal zeven finalerondes hebben twee teams van de Leiden Debating Union de finales van het EK debatteren gewonnen! Katharina Margareta Jansen en Louis Honee hebben niet alleen de finale voor teams met Engels als tweede taal (ESL) gehaald, maar ook de open finale. David Metz en Emma Lucas hebben ook de open finale bereikt; er stonden dus twee Nederlandse teams in deze finale!
Uiteindelijk hebben Katharina en Louis de ESL finale gewonnen en hebben David en Emma de winst gepakt bij de open finale. Een ontzettend indrukwekkende prestatie!
Door: Pjotr Koster (NSDV Trivium) – het originele artikel in het Engels vind je hier.
In dit artikel zal ik bespreken of alle criminele verdachten een publieke verdediger zouden moeten gebruiken. Dit was het onderwerp van debat in de eerste ronde van de Leiden Open 2020.
Informatiedia: A public defender is a lawyer employed by the state in a criminal trial to represent the defendant.
Stelling: THW require all criminal defendants to use a public defender.Ronde 1 – Leiden Open 2020
De Nederlandse Debatbond organiseert elk kwartaal een sociale activiteit. Deze activiteiten kunnen bijgewoond worden door alle leden van de Nederlandse Debatgemeenschap. Gedurende deze activiteiten leer je leden van andere debatverenigingen kennen op een andere manier dan op een debattoernooi. Natuurlijk hebben we ook veel plezier!
Op 29 mei om 20:00 uur zal de Nederlandse Debatbond een online pubquiz organiseren voor eenieder die graag de hersenen laat kraken onder het genot van een drankje en intrigerende gesprekken met mede-debaters of geïnteresseerden in debatteren. Je doet mee op individuele basis. Ben jij er klaar voor om te laten zien dat jij de slimste van je debatvereniging of zelfs de hele Nederlandse debatgemeenschap bent?
Meer informatie volgt snel over de de manier waarop we het organiseren; waarschijnlijk zal dit een combinatie van Kahoot en Zoom zijn.
Door: Pjotr Koster (NSDV Trivium) – het originele artikel in het Engels vind je hier.
Tijdens het weekend van 29 februari en 1 maart was er een klein toernooi genaamd Leiden Open 2020. Dit debattoernooi had niet alleen een sterk CA-team, maar ook een waanzinnig goede jurypoule, waardoor de feedback uitstekend was. Dit werd natuurlijk aangevuld met geweldige (internationale) teams, variërend van Leiden tot de London School of Economics. Trivium werd helaas alleen vertegenwoordigd door mij en de krachtpatser genaamd Mara Burgstede.Meer lezen
Geschreven door: Jos Buijvoets (T.D.V. Cicero)
In Nederland hield ze twee jaar Wageningen Debating in leven en was ze een constante aanwezig op debattoernooi. Nathania “Nany” Engelhardt keerde na haar master Communicatiewetenschappen terug naar Curaçao waar ze een debatgemeenschap opbouwt. Van student in het koude Nederland tot grootheid in de Spaanstalige debatwereld, dit is het verhaal van Nany.Meer lezen
Written by Daan and Jelte
Another year, another EUDC. This summer our beloved Dutch debaters have landed in Athens, where the true origin of debating lies! Although the first day of inrounds has already finished, we will get you up to speed about what to expect from the Dutch delegation this year. But first, a brief introduction to EUDC for all the parents.
The European University Debating Championships, abbreviated EUDC, is a yearly competition between universitites in Europe, whose students debate. Simple as that. There are roughly 200 teams competing, including a staggering 15 Dutch teams this year. All teams compete in 9 inrounds, taking place over three days. After the 9 rounds, the best teams can break either OPEN (meaning all participating teams can break) or ESL (meaning only non-native speakers can break).
A list of the participating Dutch teams can be found below. Who should you look out for in our updates over the coming days? One of the uncontested favourites in this year’s EUDC is Leiden A (David and Louis). David has shown in the past year to be one of the very best in the Dutch Debating Community. After winning finals such as Roosevelt, YCY, Cologne and Kalliope, he seems incredibly hard to beat. Louis, who we might still know from not knowing who Erdogan is, is rapidly improving. On his cv from the past year we find amongst others winning Bucharest Open and the ESL final of Cambridge IV. This duo managed to win Belgrade Open, so their prep is top notch. They can also be crowned as the team that is the most likely to run off with your mom, according to Daan Spackler.
Another fan favourite is Bonaparte A: Marike and Zeno. Marike was part of last year’s top team Marike and Tom, who managed to secure the first Bona break in years. This year she has traded Tom in for a better looking partner. Whether he will be just as good of a debater remains to be seen. Anyways, Marike knows what it’s like to be under pressure on the third day, and how to come out on top. That experience will undoubtedly be invaluable as the tournament progresses.
Cicero A (Lotte and Roel) might be one of the teams that has shown the most improvement. Lotte and Roel have been debating together for three years now, and their team dynamics got better and better. They managed to break at lots of competitions last year, such as Rotterdam and Delft. Roel missed the break last year narrowly. Lotte stated ‘In terms of prep, we have done nothing remarkable in the past few months, byt it helps that we have been speaking together for longer now. We did listen to some deeply boring podcasts and have ten practically untouched issues of the Economist.’ True debaters!
Kalliope A (Linsey and Joris) and Rhetorica A (Katharina and Alwin) are often mentioned as outsiders for the break. All four have been debaters for a while and have all participated in previous editions of either EUDC or WUDC. Joris and Linsey narrowly missed the break last year, still causing incidental nightmares when Joris is sleeping. Katharina and Alwin have both performed well at various tournaments, but have never managed to break at a large international. Will Katharina’s move to Leiden break the Maastricht curse?
Utrecht A (Friso and Harmen) is a relatively new team. Both haven’t been in the circle for longer than two years. You might still know them from the novice final of Amsterdam Open 2018. Ever since, they improved massively. The dynamic duo showed what they can do at DAPDI two weeks ago. After breaking on 12/12, becoming best and second best speaker ánd winning the final, Friso and Harmen showed that this is a team to take into consideration. Harmen stated: ‘I don’t think we already have the level to break, but we might get close. My main goal is to develop further. Making cases and rebuttal goes solid, but I need to structure more and be more efficient. We are really excited.’
Another lesser well-known team from the Dom city is Utrecht B (Justin and Vittoria). Justin has been a great treasurer for the last year and given great feedback. Vittoria managed to reach the final of Utrecht Internal, even though it was her first ever competition and she had a terrible team partner. Justin: ‘I hope to achieve the highest cannonball in the pool and I am incredibly excited for this opportunity and I would like to thank my swim teacher. Also, haven’t prepped for debating, but that’s alright since I am not in a competitive but vacation mood when it comes to debating.’
Want to know how all these teams and the others are doing? Follow SevenTwenty on Facebook. We will provide you with live updates as the tournament progresses. Let’s hope it will be another great year for Dutch debating!
A full list of all the teams:
Bonaparte A: Marike & Zeno
Bonaparte B: Dino & Ilinca
Cicero A: Lotte & Roel
Cicero B: Maarten and Maija
Erasmus A: Fenna and Neila
Erasmus B: Eugene and Nayan
Groningen A: Joris and Linsey
Leiden A: David and Louis
Leiden B: Fabian and Franka
Leiden C: Amal and Lucy
Rhetorica A: Alwin and Katharina
Rhetorica B: Angela and Lisa
Rhetorica C: Lion and Ziga
Utrecht A: Friso and Harmen
Utrecht B: Justin and Vittoria
Adi Cohen Berko
Huyen Thi Thanh Nguyen
Lisa van Vliet
Als bestuurder van de Debatbond vertegenwoordig jij de Nederlandse (studenten)-debatwereld. Je staat in verbinding met twaalf lidverenigingen en helpt hen bij de zaken die voor hen belangrijk zijn. Deze verenigingen hebben uiteenloopende karakters en uiteenlopende uitdagingen. De ene vereniging heeft hulp nodig bij bestuursinhoudelijke zaken, de ander bij het organiseren van toernooien of debatinhoudelijke zaken.
Je kent het verenigingsleven en de debatwereld. Alles wat een bestuurder nu meemaakt heb jij al een keer meegemaakt. Iemand anders stond misschien in de halve finale van EUDC, maar jij was de organisatorische spin-in-het-web die de boel draaiende hield. Uit intrinsieke motivatie heb jij je ingezet om dingen voor andere mensen te realiseren en die motivatie heb jij ook voor de debatwereld op een nationaal niveau.
Jij gaat voor de duur van twee jaar een hecht team vormen met een groep bestuurders die de Nederlandse debatgemeenschap naar een hoger plan wilt tillen. Jullie weten als geen ander wat er speelt onder verenigingen en hebben een duidelijke visie op hoe je hen kan ondersteunen. Binnen het bestuur verdelen jullie de taken zo dat de dagelijkse gang van zaken van de Debatbond geen moeite opleveren. Hierdoor kunnen jullie je richten op de grotere veranderingen die jullie teweeg willen brengen. Je bent hierbij wel bereid om water bij de wijn te doen om ervoor te zorgen dat je de gehele gemeenschap vertegenwoordigt. Jij realiseert je namelijk ook dat je samen meer kan doen.Meer lezen
After the disappointing season finale of HBO’s hit series Game of Thrones, another incredibly popular debater activity will come to a close for this debating year: the Dutch Debating League. The true loyal fans are obviously completely up-to-date and have been posting fan theories for months. Time for 720 to inform you about all the ins-and-outs of this season – and to set out what to expect from its last episode.
The winners of this year
Who have been doing well over the past year? Unsurprisingly, LDU is at the top of the table, and just like last year, out of reach of the other societies. They have been doing even better than last year, and have won 53 out of the 56 available point. Their dominance has not been declining either, as they achieved their best speaks in the last edition taking place at Chronos in Eindhoven. Although there are thus no signs of slowing down, LDU will be cruising in Amsterdam – taking the trophy for the second year in the city of their biggest rivals.
In second place we find Cicero, from Tilburg. Perhaps only few would have predicted a couple of years ago the society would be at the top of the Dutch Debating community, but the society is the perfect example that consistent hard work pays off. Their dream team Lotte and Roel have been going to many DDL nights, and beat almost all their opponents. Only LDU and UDS have proven to be worthy contesters that were able to occasionally break the wheel of Cicero, crushing the societies that stand between them and that much desired glory.
Coming in third is the Utrecht Debating Society. After losing local debating superstar Pieter to the rival society in Oxford and partner Florine to ‘being-too-cool-for-debating-life’, not many would have predicted that UDS could hang so well with the rest. After the sixth evening they were even tied with Cicero for second place, but unfortunately for them took two fourths in Eindhoven. Part of the rise of UDS can be explained by luring experienced debaters from other societies to the most beautiful city of the Netherlands, rather than fully having to rely on new blood. With Joris and Daan, they found two enthusiastic quality debaters that are not afraid of facing anybody. Will they be able to pull of a major upset and pass Cicero on the last day?
Lastly, Chronos is definitely one of the winners of this season. Only having stepped in halfway, after the inability of GDS to send more teams, they have performed exceptionally well. Although they currently find themselves in 8th place, a solid performance on the last evening might see them climbing the ranks and finish off the season strong. We can only be excited to see what the newest addition to Dutch Debating has to offer in a full season next year.
The losers… so far?
One of losers this season has been GDS, which has not showed up since the first evening this season. Rumour has it that the earth quakes in the area have made the Northerns more suspicious of the rest of the Netherlands. Moreover, its president Lars is known to stick to the motto that Northerns have never fared well traveling south, looking to prominent examples such as Ned and Rob Stark. Now that winter is over, we hope to welcome them next year.
EDS, one of the top contenders last years, is also found amongst the losers this season. Finding themselves in 7th place is unworthy for one of the largest debating societies in the Netherlands. Losing Emma and Fenna as dedicated team that was one of the few that could beat Leiden, even on an average day, the competition has lost some excitement with the fact that no replacement has been found. Literally, since EDS has not sent a team to most evening this year. At the last evening of the year, they even have to fear being overtaken by Chronos. Can they still turn it around?
Jelte’s new rule implementation can also not be counted amongst the winners, unfortunately. As a response to the participation rate, it was decided that the Debatbond would open up the DDL to all its member societies. No society has made use of the opportunity, however. Jelte’s relentless and endless stalking have also resulted in serious damage to his social status amongst Dutch debating boards. Back to the drawing board!
Delft can perhaps not be said to be a winner, but it is certainly not a loser. Sitting comfortably at fourth place, Delft has put in a consistent performance this season. Moreover, they are improving at a scary rate. Whereas the beginning of the season started of slow for the technicians, they have been catching up in the last three editions: taking home 5 points at each of those. Not only will they therefore earn more than you in the future, the other societies should be scared of Delft next year.
Bonaparte has been slightly underwhelming performance this year, but does have an excellent opportunity to finish strong as they have the home advantage at the upcoming addition. Starting strong at the first evening, everybody reckoned Bonaparte would become a contender for the title. They haven’t quite lived up to that expectation, but the beer will be served cold – so when debating doesn’t work out they can always resort to what they do best.
Trivium’s performance this year can best be described as capricious. Occasionally brilliant, taking home serious points; other times slightly disappointing. As a society that has to travel far and wide to participate, it hasn’t been easy for them. Nonetheless, they have displayed that new talent is coming up in the far East. Let’s wait for next year!
Although Leiden will take home the trophy, not everything has been decided. It will be the last chance to create that lasting legacy that will secure your place in the history of your society. Who will make the history books, and who will be forgotten. Spicy motions, all-deciding set-ups: guaranteed excitement at the DDL in Amsterdam. All are welcome!
Written by Ybo Buruma
Principled argumentation is arguably no longer as prevalent as it was when I first started debating. Back in those days (long, long ago) proposition teams were basically required to bring at least some principled justification for their plans. Sometimes, these justifications were rather short. For instance, when the government already had very similar policies in place, or when a prisoner’s dilemma occurred. However, quite often, the principled discussion was the more important one in the debate: is the government allowed to protect you from yourself to this extent? Is the government allowed to torture someone to save millions of innocents? Those questions happen less and less frequently in the debates I’ve seen over the last few months and I think that’s a shame: principled arguments are both extremely interesting and can be very compelling.
In this short piece I’m going to look at the three things I believe are needed for a principled argument to stand, on top of that, I’m going to look at a few different ways for principled arguments to be used in the current ‘meta’ of debating.
Written by Lena
Now that the Debatbond board members are in the final months, it was a good opportunity for 720 to interview them once more. Importantly, the Debatbond will be recruiting for a new board soon. If you are thinking of potentially applying, this is where you can get to know everything your heart desires to know about the Debatbond! Who are the board members? How have they changed during their board year? What have they done in the past years? Those are all the questions you might be asking yourself. We are hoping to inform you all about the organization for you by getting to know the members, what they do and what they have been able to accomplish.